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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Sept 14, 2017 23:23:42 GMT
The trouble with so many of us is that unlike the others, who spout fine sounding principles only when it suits their selfish purposes, we actually take all the high-falutin' ideals seriously. On the one hand, that's why we are the ones who produce the Felas, the Soyinkas, the Solarins, the Falanas and all the other types who stand up for the rights of others even at grave personal risk, while Charlie Boy is mocked and jeered at by his own people because of his "Our Mumu Done Do" campaign. On the other hand, this very same idealistic tendency means many of us aren't capable of the ruthless selfishness required to promote our own agenda, so we stick our noses in things that don't concern us, on behalf of people who hate us, all in the name of "principle". But if it's all about principles, how come most Yorubas I see posting about this issue have been fully in support of NA occupation of the East. Shouldn't it be the opposite? Bro, this is not a matter of principle- to be sincere, half of Yorubas fon't seem to have any deep rooted level of concern or care but make posts anyway- of the other half who care- 80% are very happy about the recent development, 20% are not. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 14, 2017 23:26:36 GMT
But if it's all about principles, how come most Yorubas I see posting about this issue have been fully in support of NA occupation of the East. Shouldn't it be the opposite? Bro, this is not a matter of principle- to be sincere, half of Yorubas fon't seem to have any deep rooted level of concern or care but make posts anyway- of the other half who care- 80% are very happy about the recent development, 20% are not. Exactly! It's just due to the fact that most of them low-key hate potor people generally or Ipobs and have been longing for the opportunity to get back at them after all the insults Those Ipobastards don step on so many toes gan  If only these Yorubas would channel this energy towards something more positive |
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Post by omohayek on Sept 15, 2017 6:33:24 GMT
The trouble with so many of us is that unlike the others, who spout fine sounding principles only when it suits their selfish purposes, we actually take all the high-falutin' ideals seriously. On the one hand, that's why we are the ones who produce the Felas, the Soyinkas, the Solarins, the Falanas and all the other types who stand up for the rights of others even at grave personal risk, while Charlie Boy is mocked and jeered at by his own people because of his "Our Mumu Done Do" campaign. On the other hand, this very same idealistic tendency means many of us aren't capable of the ruthless selfishness required to promote our own agenda, so we stick our noses in things that don't concern us, on behalf of people who hate us, all in the name of "principle". But if it's all about principles, how come most Yorubas I see posting about this issue have been fully in support of NA occupation of the East. Shouldn't it be the opposite? If it weren't for those principles, why would there be any Yoruba voices at all arguing for the Igbo cause? Considering the amount of hate they've dished out to us over the years, they can count it a miracle that "only" 2/3 of Yorubas online who can even be bothered one way or another are rooting for the Nigerian Army on this occasion. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 16, 2017 11:02:50 GMT
Damn! Never heard Maazi sound so humble and polite. Python yen o nice rara
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Sept 16, 2017 12:32:26 GMT
Damn! Never heard Maazi sound so humble and polite. Python yen o nice rara That's actually Nnamdi Kanu's younger brother, Emmanuel, that granted the interview. I don't think we have heard the last from the Biafra agitators. This latest reluctant capitulation is one humiliation too many for them, therefore we shouldn't expect their agitation to just fizzle out, rather I expect that it will take on a new form. Obviously, they miscalculated (once again) coz they failed to learn from history. I've said it before that under the current arrangement, secession can only be gotten via war in Nigeria, one which no single ethnic component of the country can achieve single-handedly. But I think disintegration can still happen eventually, via the 'backdoor', if all the ethnic components of the country can be allowed to come together and freely negotiate and agree over their terms of (dis)engagement as a nation, and address the glaring imbalances and clogs that make the current system unworkable. A referendum clause and process can then be included in the constitution to enable individual components of the federation to pull out if they so desire. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 16, 2017 13:13:06 GMT
Lol Short_Biscuit, that's Kanu himself, not his brother Yepp..I agree with you the agitations won't fizzle out soon. That said, I'm not expecting much from them other than the same old music we are bored of They've been rendered toothless with this operation. Well..they never had a clear-cut strategy anyway. Also, they have no allies and they don't really pose much threat to the country's economy Now that they've been declared a terrorist organization, it would be interesting to see how they go from here. |
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Sept 16, 2017 13:49:21 GMT
Lol Short_Biscuit, that's Kanu himself, not his brother Yepp..I agree with you the agitations won't fizzle out soon. That said, I'm not expecting much from them other than the same old music we are bored of They've been rendered toothless with this operation. Well..they never had a clear-cut strategy anyway. Also, they have no allies and they don't really pose much threat to the country's economy Now that they've been declared a terrorist organization, it would be interesting to see how they go from here. I noticed the voice sounded like Kanu's but he introduced himself as 'Prince Emmanuel Kanu'. I think the Nigerian state would be making a huge mistake if they think the Biafra agitation can be suppressed by force. The fact of the matter is that support for Kanu's ideology, particularly in the SE, is very mainstream and wasn't a fluke -- all that flag waving and the well-attended rallies attest to that, and even the SE elite also gave him tacit support all along. Like I said earlier, they still feel that nagging sense of humiliation that will be difficult to disregard or erase just like that, similar to how Yoruba's felt under Abacha's sadistic reign, except that unlike us they are not agitating for a reversal of a stolen mandate, but rather an independent country. A lot of the hatred that they have built up against other ethnicities will not just go away coz of the 'Python Dance' operation. They need to come together as a people and fashion out a more pragmatic method towards achieving their collective aim of a separate and independent Igbo country. That Biafran spirit/ideology, no matter how utopian it may appear, has refused to die, like Wole Soyinka warned. Nigeria needs to disintegrate peacefully so that everyone can be happy being addressed as whomever they please, whether it's Biafra or whatever. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 16, 2017 13:56:24 GMT
Lol Short_Biscuit, he pronounced it like Emmanuel, but it's Nnamdi But yeah...I agree with your post. |
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Post by omohayek on Sept 16, 2017 18:23:30 GMT
Lol Short_Biscuit , that's Kanu himself, not his brother Yepp..I agree with you the agitations won't fizzle out soon. That said, I'm not expecting much from them other than the same old music we are bored of They've been rendered toothless with this operation. Well..they never had a clear-cut strategy anyway. Also, they have no allies and they don't really pose much threat to the country's economy Now that they've been declared a terrorist organization, it would be interesting to see how they go from here. I noticed the voice sounded like Kanu's but he introduced himself as 'Prince Emmanuel Kanu'. I think the Nigerian state would be making a huge mistake if they think the Biafra agitation can be suppressed by force. The fact of the matter is that support for Kanu's ideology, particularly in the SE, is very mainstream and wasn't a fluke -- all that flag waving and the well-attended rallies attest to that, and even the SE elite also gave him tacit support all along. Like I said earlier, they still feel that nagging sense of humiliation that will be difficult to disregard or erase just like that, similar to how Yoruba's felt under Abacha's sadistic reign, except that unlike us they are not agitating for a reversal of a stolen mandate, but rather an independent country. A lot of the hatred that they have built up against other ethnicities will not just go away coz of the 'Python Dance' operation. They need to come together as a people and fashion out a more pragmatic method towards achieving their collective aim of a separate and independent Igbo country. That Biafran spirit/ideology, no matter how utopian it may appear, has refused to die, like Wole Soyinka warned. Nigeria needs to disintegrate peacefully so that everyone can be happy being addressed as whomever they please, whether it's Biafra or whatever. The problem for them is that no matter how deep their feelings of humiliation and resentment, the only way they are going to obtain an independent Biafran state without winning their freedom through warfare is by gaining the assent of enough of the other groups in Nigeria to push it through the NASS (and override a presidential veto if need be). That will never be possible as long as they continue to vilify Yorubas, SS minorities who don't want to be part of a Biafran state, and even Middle Beltans who happen to be Muslims; only with the assistance of all of the aforementioned groups will the necessary votes be obtainable for what the Igbos want, as there isn't a chance in hell of the "core" northerners willingly giving up their oil-money feeding bottle and access to southern ports, no matter the level of Igbo whining and protesting. Any strategy they follow which doesn't involve healing ties with all the groups they've alienated with their endless insults and chest-beating is therefore doomed to failure. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 16, 2017 19:57:11 GMT
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Sept 16, 2017 21:06:55 GMT
Lol Short_Biscuit , that's Kanu himself, not his brother Yepp..I agree with you the agitations won't fizzle out soon. That said, I'm not expecting much from them other than the same old music we are bored of They've been rendered toothless with this operation. Well..they never had a clear-cut strategy anyway. Also, they have no allies and they don't really pose much threat to the country's economy Now that they've been declared a terrorist organization, it would be interesting to see how they go from here. The whole way Nigeria's agencies operate is all just soo mumu upon mumu. it would make much more sense for IPOB to be declared an Extremist Militia first at least, before they are eventually declared full blown terrorists- if it ever gets to that stage. It seems like everyone is just in a haste these days to label averything and anythng as "aterrorists" .. it's all so cliché aleeady. |
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 16, 2017 23:43:50 GMT
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Sept 16, 2017 23:53:05 GMT
Na the Yoruba position be that one or what?
Dey condemn upandan the con3.
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Post by Honorebu on Sept 17, 2017 9:44:23 GMT
😂😂😂😂
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