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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 17:56:51 GMT
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Post by Honorebu on May 27, 2017 18:25:35 GMT
Are Yorubas actually being marginalized?
Besides, don't you think the thread would backfire? Anyway, I trust you guys sha. Me I dey on ban lol
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Post by skebe on May 27, 2017 18:38:13 GMT
To be fair, we are hardly marginalized when Northerners are in power, and currently naija is ruled by majorly two yorubas - Osinbajo and Fasola. I am not sure Saraki counts though
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 18:41:29 GMT
The marginalization of the Yoruba people in Nigeria has been going on for a very long time, especially since the dissolution of the old Western region, but not many Nigerians are talking about it. * Federal presence, Airports and Seaports
To begin with, most states of the West lack a federal presence, except for Lagos which is a melting pot of Nigerians, hosting certain federal parastatals serving all Nigerians. The Metropolis of Ibadan of over 6 Million people has absolutely nothing in terms of Federal presence or Agencies. There is no city anywhere in the world of its size in any country of the world, that does not get its deserved share of federal presence. In the case of Ibadan the city has been relegated and deliberately ignored by the federal government. No federal airport in a city that size! Ibadan airport needs to be upgraded to federal status to serve the needs of Yorubas in the Western hinterland who have to travel to Lagos or Abuja to get everything done. Some people are whining that not enough international flights land at Enugu international airport, but they have forgotten that Enugu had the exact same status as Ibadan before independence and during the first republic. So why should one get an international airport while the airport in the other is left to rot away by the FG? As at right now, I can get international flight to and from the Enugu Airport, but same can not be said for Ibadan, even though the later is much larger and of much more importance economically, being the capital of the 3rd/4th most populated state in the federation. On the eastern axis of the country, Enugu and Port Harcourt have airports that are capable of handling international flights. Kano, Kaduna and Abuja in the Northern section of Nigeria, but all the West and Yorubas have is the Lagos airport. A tiny underperforming airport that isn't even serving the needs of all those who use it. Isn't that gross marginalization of Yoruba people? The federal government has also refused to expand the Seaport at Lagos in order to curtail the economic strength of the West within Nigeria. As we speak the clearing times for cargo ships at the Lagos port is one of the longest in the world, and the port has been deliberately neglected to the extent that it can't even handle ships of certain specifications anymore. The dockyards are tiny and insufficient. Even though Lagos remains the best natural harbour in the whole of West Africa, certain goods meant for the Nigerian market now have to go through the Accra and Tema ports, Lome and Cotonou in neighboring West African countries due to faster clearing times as a result of better facilities they've got. Checking the facts and figures will reveal to anyone who bothers to look, that Lagos is the largest city of its size that has the least busy and most inefficient port system on the entire globe. A city the size of Lagos should have at least 2 international airports and seaports or at least a very large and efficient port system, to serve the needs of its teeming populace, but what do we see..... a system that has been left to rot by the Federal government. While the Eastern Zone of the country has got major container terminal/seaport at Port Harcourt/Onne and at Calabar both handling international cargo, the West is in need of another major terminal of its own in the Ondo coastal region to open that axis of the region to development, and open up the Eastern Yorubaland region. A port on the Ondo coast will greatly benefit the states of Ondo, Ekiti, Osun, Kogi and Edo. The federal government is very well aware of the potential of a seaport in this area to turn around the fortune of millions of people for the better, but has deliberately decided to neglect it, just to relegate Yoruba people. All they do now is play lip service while nothing actually gets done. ( businessandmaritimewestafrica.com/maritime-development/fg-approves-inland-sea-port-for-ondo-state).
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 18:42:13 GMT
Are Yorubas actually being marginalized Besides, don't you think the thread would backfire? Anyway, I trust you guys sha. Me I dey on ban lol Yes, we are heavily marginalized.
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Post by Honorebu on May 27, 2017 18:46:55 GMT
Are Yorubas actually being marginalized Besides, don't you think the thread would backfire? Anyway, I trust you guys sha. Me I dey on ban lol Yes, we are heavily marginalized. Toh! I personally feel we have it far better than other regions though. Our leaders just haven't done enough to take advantage of that Lagos-factor
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 18:53:24 GMT
* Roads and other transport links.
Almost all the federal roads in the Southwest are in terrible shape. The situation has gotten so bad that Ogun state had to fix several federal roads because the FG refused to pay attention, refusing instead to improve roads in other parts of the country. The most important Federal road in the country (Lagos-Ibadan) has been intentionally left to rot and decay for reasons best known to Nigeria's federal government. under GEJ The Eastern sections of the roads between the East and the West (Benin to Onitsha) were improved upon to almost world class levels. Immediately You leave Benin towards the West however, the story changes. From Lagos to Shagamu - Ijebu Ode axis to Ore are all in shambolic states of existence despite heavy traffic. The other arm of the highway that leads to Ibadan and the Yoruba heartland is even Worse! Today The FG owes Ogun state for the repair of federal roads to the tunes of Billions, far more than any other state in the country.
How about the roads in other parts of the region? Ibadan - Ogbomosho - Ilorin - Jebba? Ife - Ilesha - Ibadan nko? How about Lagos - Abeokuta or Ibadan - Abeokuta? Akure - Ilesha nko, or Ondo to Ore? All in terrible states. Go to the North and see world class double laned roads fr Zaria all the way to Sokoto, or the Abuja - Kaduna - Kano expressway which are so smooth you might be tempted to overspeed. Yet some people will say Yorubas are not being marginalized in Nigeria, when even the federal roads leading to Lagos is being neglected and others in the region are gradually dilapidating into mere mud paths.
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Post by Short_Biscuit on May 27, 2017 18:53:28 GMT
Short_Biscuit , Her Highness , skebe Honorebu , ruggedized, omohayek This is a thread I want to create on NL, So I want us to thrash the topic and discuss well here, before i move the topic to NL, we will just be copying and pasting facts to fill up like page 0, 1 and 2 over there. IMHO, while I think Yorubas are indeed marginalized, I also think that position would be a tough sell to other ethnicities in the current political climate. E.g, Lagos and Ogun are obviously being shortchanged as far as revenue distribution is concerned -- the current federal allocation and wealth redistribution urgently need to be revisited and reworked. The other ethnicities (especially our SE and SS neighbours) already feel like Yorubas are enjoying unfair privileges under the current administration, and I doubt there's any objective argument that can be presented to them to disprove this perception in their minds. And unless and until the country either disintegrates or is properly restructured (at the very least) to allow every one develop at their own pace, the cries of marginalization, both real and imagined, will not abate.
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Post by Short_Biscuit on May 27, 2017 19:06:00 GMT
Ogbeni Ogunnaike: Truth is that your points mentioned so far on this thread are actually very legit and true. Though the others (from the other side) too would be quick to twist your intentions by trying to compare these to their perceived 'Federal presence' that supposedly give Lagos and by extension the entire SW an unfair advantage over them.
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 19:08:05 GMT
Short_Biscuit , Her Highness , skebe Honorebu , ruggedized , omohayek This is a thread I want to create on NL, So I want us to thrash the topic and discuss well here, before i move the topic to NL, we will just be copying and pasting facts to fill up like page 0, 1 and 2 over there. IMHO, while I think Yorubas are indeed marginalized, I also think that position would be a tough sell to other ethnicities in the current political climate. E.g, Lagos and Ogun are obviously being shortchanged as far as revenue distribution is concerned -- the current federal allocation and wealth redistribution urgently need to be revisited and reworked. The other ethnicities (especially our SE and SS neighbours) already feel like Yorubas are enjoying unfair privileges under the current administration, and I doubt there's any objective argument that can be presented to them to disprove this perception in their minds. And unless and until the country either disintegrates or is properly restructured (at the very least) to allow every one develop at their own pace, the cries of marginalization, both real and imagined, will not abate. Lagos being in the West is what is causing most of the wrong sentiments. Honestly, even Lagos itself is marginalized if we are to look critically at what it is supposed to be getting and what it currently has. Why didn't Ibadan airport get an upgrade when Enugu got hers? Is Enugu more nationally important than Ibadan? Forget most of the things we say on NL bro, but hope you know that Port harcourt essentially functions as an Igbo city?
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Post by skebe on May 27, 2017 19:09:24 GMT
OBJ was there for 8 years, what happened, or is it because Lagos was ruled by opposing party With the present administration, no major difference
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 19:14:38 GMT
OBJ was there for 8 years, what happened, or is it because Lagos was ruled by opposing party With the present administration, no major difference True. And that is the only downside to the argument. Obj being the Mr Please all man that he was.
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Post by Honorebu on May 27, 2017 19:38:03 GMT
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Post by omohayek on May 27, 2017 19:42:59 GMT
Yes, we are heavily marginalized. Toh! I personally feel we have it far better than other regions though. Our leaders just haven't done enough to take advantage of that Lagos-factor But that's one of the problems with the current setup; the very fact that we enjoy the best economic conditions tends to distract Yoruba people from realizing just how much better off we could be under more sensible arrangements. It's easy to feel that the status quo is tolerable when your income per capita is 50% higher than that of the SE, and 150% higher than the northern regions - until someone takes the time and effort to show you that your standard of living could be 2 or 3 times what it is now with more autonomy and better FG policies. For example, why has the FG refused to turn over MMA or the port of Lagos to international investors who would really put money into them? The answer is because that would deprive the northerners of yet another source of patronage. It doesn't matter to them whether or not the air or sea ports in Lagos are working efficiently, because they know that most of the additional growth that would result would go to the SW, rather than the north, while they would lose a source of useless "jobs" (aka looting opportunities) for so many northerners who are unqualified to compete in the private sector.
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on May 27, 2017 19:45:26 GMT
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