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Post by colonial pikin on Jan 19, 2016 21:14:26 GMT
Perhaps they see that identity as closer to their religion.I grew up as a muslim...many times for Black Muslims they aren't able to separate Islam from culture.Why I say so...here in Trinidad you find a significant amount of East Indian Muslims but many hold on tightly to East Indian culture whilst being Muslim...its not similar for Black Muslims.Perhaps before condemning these Illorin Muslims it would be best understand the psychology behind they wanting to be Fulanis to discern it roots....if its general inferiority or perhaps they look up to Fulanis as the ideal Muslim.Also Islam is as such that the ummah comes 1st...meaning in that Oyo history....a Hausa Muslim comes 1st before Idol worshippers Yorubas...just saying. For Yoruba, no matter how serious you take your religious belief, your identity as a Yoruba and the 'omoluabi' that comes with it follows. Let us keep in mind there are Ilorin Christians too who want to be identified as having Fulani ancestry. What you suppose is the cause to be identified as Fulani?Have you tried engaging them just to discern the psychology behind it?
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Jan 19, 2016 22:54:17 GMT
For Yoruba, no matter how serious you take your religious belief, your identity as a Yoruba and the 'omoluabi' that comes with it follows. Let us keep in mind there are Ilorin Christians too who want to be identified as having Fulani ancestry. What you suppose is the cause to be identified as Fulani?Have you tried engaging them just to discern the psychology behind it? I do not know, maybe it comes with some sort of sense of pride? Been to Ilorin countless times, mixed to a certain level and I have one of them as my personal tailor whose wife's appearance is like that of a Fulani. I do not know why this is the case with them.
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Post by colonial pikin on Jan 19, 2016 23:26:59 GMT
What you suppose is the cause to be identified as Fulani?Have you tried engaging them just to discern the psychology behind it? I do not know, maybe it comes with some sort of sense of pride? Been to Ilorin countless times, mixed to a certain level and I have one of them as my personal tailor whose wife's appearance is like that of a Fulani. I do not know why this is the case with them. Hmmm...perhaps you should probe further the pride avenue.What exactly it is about Fulani heritage that gives them pride?...perhaps it may be beauty,culture,history,power,economics etc. I have seen pics of fulanis in the archives where they both have a Black and Mixed look.Do folks consider it a plus to look like a Fulani?...I am asking about the beauty angle.Sometimes you gain insight to why folks cling onto aspects of a group culture based on stereotypes and the comments they make about that group.For example odua was relaying his experience that some half igbo/yorubas would bleach just to get light skin and claim they get it from the Igbo side....already there is an association of Igbos to lighter skin relative to Yorubas though a majority of their folks aren't light skin.
Overall if those Illorin Yorubas are of mixed heritage...ummm it is a lost cause.Perhaps its just a case of the confusion that comes from having a mixed background.Here in the Caribbean you go still find folks telling you about their so and so non-black ancestor that is like 3 and 4 generations removed....just to claim that heritage since it is deemed as more worthy than the black side.Odua himself postulated he finds folks of mixed ethnic groups in Naija have complexes like mixed race folks in the diaspora.
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Jan 20, 2016 0:50:14 GMT
I do not know, maybe it comes with some sort of sense of pride? Been to Ilorin countless times, mixed to a certain level and I have one of them as my personal tailor whose wife's appearance is like that of a Fulani. I do not know why this is the case with them. Hmmm...perhaps you should probe further the pride avenue.What exactly it is about Fulani heritage that gives them pride?...perhaps it may be beauty,culture,history,power,economics etc. I have seen pics of fulanis in the archives where they both have a Black and Mixed look.Do folks consider it a plus to look like a Fulani?...I am asking about the beauty angle.Sometimes you gain insight to why folks cling onto aspects of a group culture based on stereotypes and the comments they make about that group.For example odua was relaying his experience that some half igbo/yorubas would bleach just to get light skin and claim they get it from the Igbo side....already there is an association of Igbos to lighter skin relative to Yorubas though a majority of their folks aren't light skin.
Overall if those Illorin Yorubas are of mixed heritage...ummm it is a lost cause.Perhaps its just a case of the confusion that comes from having a mixed background.Here in the Caribbean you go still find folks telling you about their so and so non-black ancestor that is like 3 and 4 generations removed....just to claim that heritage since it is deemed as more worthy than the black side.Odua himself postulated he finds folks of mixed ethnic groups in Naija have complexes like mixed race folks in the diaspora.
Fam, the assertion that all Ilorin Yoruba are of mixed heritage does not really hold water considering Ilorin as a town is divided. People with pure Yoruba ancestry on the one side and folks with Fulani/Yoruba-Fulani ancestry on the one side. The latter appears to control the politics of the state - Saraki, Belgore etc and I suppose the city leans where these people lean. Their present governor is pure Yoruba with no Fulani blood but he identifies more with the North than the SWest, can anyone put their finger on why this is so? Muhammed Lawal was the only Kwara governor that tried to move Ilorin towards Yoruba but was opposed by Saraki, the Emir and their squad.
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Post by Merchantt on Jan 25, 2016 16:34:58 GMT
It is nothing but betrayal. The Word Is Betrayal.
I'm afraid of associating myself with some Yorubas because you don't know who's going to betray you.
The Fulanis won the wars because our daft Yoruba people betrayed Oyo.
Also Oyo made some mistakes. There was division in Yorubaland. The energy they spent colonizing their fellow Yorubas would have been dissipated on reclaiming Ilorin.
With the support of Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ijebus, Egbas and other Yorubas, Oyo would have defeated Fulanis and sent the Tse Tse Flies to the forest where they belong. Instead of uniting against the real enemy(Tse Tse Flies), the Oyos were busy fighting their fellow Yorubas.
Too badt. Quite unfortunate we lost that outpost town to the Fulanis. It's a slap on us.
We should let it go.
Hahahahahahahaahhaham. Most of them are truly confused. There was a guy(Jarus) who was invited to the Commonwealth thread to contribute. When asked where he is from, the dude said he's from Offa BUT HE IS A NORTHERNER. A Konfam Konfused Yoruba. An Indigene of Offa who seems himself as a Northerner instead of saying geographically Kwara is in North but I'm Yoruba.
I've given up on those dudes. If Yorubas in far away Kogi state could claim Yoruba and want to be ceded to a Yoruba state, why would a Yoruba Kwaran calls himself a Northerner?
I tire for those traitors. It's none of my business sha.
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