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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 22:20:15 GMT
What's your take on this approach? What are its long-term implication on the education system in the West? Shymmex, Interloper, iyalode, Moffy, OmoOba, Iya Niyen!, Omoluabi, dansoye1, Belmot, osoronga, Omo Oba of the Source, Her Highness, IrekeOnibudo, ioannes, laudate, oduabachanal, stblack, zaynie, Honorebu, ilaje2015, omohayek, AgbongboAkala, Ogbeni Ogunnaike, aparo, black, colonial pikin, skylar, cocoafarmer, missy89, ibk, Merchantt, lontoro, isalegangan, yorumigrant, ajanaku, sholeybanty, ayodejilara, oloyesaso, sakur, ritchiee, mignone, honeychild, Short_Biscuit, amorere, donphilosophy, governor, irewande, isholapecham, ola, olugbenga86, taiwo, loadofs, ijeshaboy, tomtoxic, imodoye, camronaija, ayekooto, dehinde,
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 22:25:16 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free.
Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized.
Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law?
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Post by omohayek on Jan 10, 2016 22:25:49 GMT
What's your take on this approach? What are its long-term implication on the education system in the West? Shymmex , Interloper , iyalode , Moffy , OmoOba , Iya Niyen! , Omoluabi , dansoye1 , Belmot , osoronga , Omo Oba of the Source , Her Highness , IrekeOnibudo , ioannes , laudate , oduabachanal , stblack , zaynie , Honorebu , ilaje2015 , omohayek , AgbongboAkala , Ogbeni Ogunnaike , aparo , black , colonial pikin , skylar , cocoafarmer , missy89 , ibk , Merchantt , lontoro , isalegangan , yorumigrant , ajanaku , sholeybanty , ayodejilara , oloyesaso , sakur , ritchiee , mignone , honeychild , Short_Biscuit , amorere , donphilosophy , governor , irewande , isholapecham , ola , olugbenga86 , taiwo , loadofs , ijeshaboy , tomtoxic , imodoye , camronaija , ayekooto , dehinde , I support this 110%. This is exactly what a good government should be doing, and it's certainly how it works in the UK, where "chav" parents like pulling their children out of school in the middle of the term to go on holiday. Parents should not be allowed to throw away their children's futures in the name of earning a little extra money, as that's the attitude that's responsible for the northern "almajiri" problem.
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Post by omohayek on Jan 10, 2016 22:27:04 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free. Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized. Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law? You make a good point. I can't say for certain, but I would be very surprised if primary and secondary education weren't free in Awolowo's home state, of all places.
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 22:34:44 GMT
What's your take on this approach? What are its long-term implication on the education system in the West? Shymmex , Interloper , iyalode , Moffy , OmoOba , Iya Niyen! , Omoluabi , dansoye1 , Belmot , osoronga , Omo Oba of the Source , Her Highness , IrekeOnibudo , ioannes , laudate , oduabachanal , stblack , zaynie , Honorebu , ilaje2015 , omohayek , AgbongboAkala , Ogbeni Ogunnaike , aparo , black , colonial pikin , skylar , cocoafarmer , missy89 , ibk , Merchantt , lontoro , isalegangan , yorumigrant , ajanaku , sholeybanty , ayodejilara , oloyesaso , sakur , ritchiee , mignone , honeychild , Short_Biscuit , amorere , donphilosophy , governor , irewande , isholapecham , ola , olugbenga86 , taiwo , loadofs , ijeshaboy , tomtoxic , imodoye , camronaija , ayekooto , dehinde , I support this 110%. This is exactly what a good government should be doing, and it's certainly how it works in the UK, where "chav" parents like pulling their children out of school in the middle of the term to go on holiday. Parents should not be allowed to throw away their children's futures in the name of earning a little extra money, as that's the attitude that's responsible for the northern "almajiri" problem. Same over here. I remember when my mom had to get permission from my siblings teachers before she could take them on vacation two weeks before the end of the semester. It is a good system because we're ensuring that our children's future, while at the same time, making their parents responsible for their education. I do wonder, will these laws apply to only kids registered in school or all kids in Ogun state. In the USA, if children aren't being home schooled, they have to be enrolled in a public/private school. The government makes sure each children are accounted for, even the unregistered kids. What happens in the case of children born for the sole purpose of hawking, begging, and farming?
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 22:36:12 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free. Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized. Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law? You make a good point. I can't say for certain, but I would be very surprised if primary and secondary education weren't free in Awolowo's home state, of all places. I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of things have changed in Yorubaland since our LEADERS (not the current egunje agbayas who call themselves leaders) have gone to meet Oduduwa.
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Post by Omoluabi on Jan 10, 2016 22:43:01 GMT
What's your take on this approach? What are its long-term implication on the education system in the West? Shymmex , Interloper , iyalode , Moffy , OmoOba , Iya Niyen! , Omoluabi , dansoye1 , Belmot , osoronga , Omo Oba of the Source , Her Highness , IrekeOnibudo , ioannes , laudate , oduabachanal , stblack , zaynie , Honorebu , ilaje2015 , omohayek , AgbongboAkala , Ogbeni Ogunnaike , aparo , black , colonial pikin , skylar , cocoafarmer , missy89 , ibk , Merchantt , lontoro , isalegangan , yorumigrant , ajanaku , sholeybanty , ayodejilara , oloyesaso , sakur , ritchiee , mignone , honeychild , Short_Biscuit , amorere , donphilosophy , governor , irewande , isholapecham , ola , olugbenga86 , taiwo , loadofs , ijeshaboy , tomtoxic , imodoye , camronaija , ayekooto , dehinde , hmmmm...... How many homes can they visit to carry out their checks? How many 'checkers' will they involve to carry out the checking? are they planning to add to the already over bloated civil service whose emoluments they're straining to pay? I don't think it's going to be practicable. I'll rather they empower teachers with better pay and better condition of service so the teachers can give their best in school and get the children interested in education. we have truancy majorly because schools have become less attractive to pupils(poor infrastructure, no recreational facilities, no real learning etc) and teachers are not always at their duty posts as they have to seek other ways to make ends meet. motivate the teachers and see them transfer that motivation to their pupils.
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Post by Omoluabi on Jan 10, 2016 22:44:03 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free. Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized. Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law? It's free education that's why they believe they have the right to penalize parents and guardians
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 22:54:11 GMT
What's your take on this approach? What are its long-term implication on the education system in the West? Shymmex , Interloper , iyalode , Moffy , OmoOba , Iya Niyen! , Omoluabi , dansoye1 , Belmot , osoronga , Omo Oba of the Source , Her Highness , IrekeOnibudo , ioannes , laudate , oduabachanal , stblack , zaynie , Honorebu , ilaje2015 , omohayek , AgbongboAkala , Ogbeni Ogunnaike , aparo , black , colonial pikin , skylar , cocoafarmer , missy89 , ibk , Merchantt , lontoro , isalegangan , yorumigrant , ajanaku , sholeybanty , ayodejilara , oloyesaso , sakur , ritchiee , mignone , honeychild , Short_Biscuit , amorere , donphilosophy , governor , irewande , isholapecham , ola , olugbenga86 , taiwo , loadofs , ijeshaboy , tomtoxic , imodoye , camronaija , ayekooto , dehinde , hmmmm...... How many homes can they visit to carry out their checks? How many 'checkers' will they involve to carry out the checking? are they planning to add to the already over bloated civil service whose emoluments they're straining to pay? I don't think it's going to be practicable. I'll rather they empower teachers with better pay and better condition of service so the teachers can give their best in school and get the children interested in education. we have truancy majorly because schools have become less attractive to pupils(poor infrastructure, no recreational facilities, no real learning etc) and teachers are not always at their duty posts as they have to seek other ways to make ends meet. motivate the teachers and see them transfer that motivation to their pupils.
Please what's your old/NL ID? ------------------------ Are you placing the blame on teachers? Are you assuming that teachers are the reason for pupils' absence? I agree with you that Schools are now less attractive and more penalizing, however, pupils (children) shouldn't have the choice to decide when they go to school. I can't imagine my child telling me that he no wan go school. Parents have that right and they need to exercise it. They need to form a union and force the schools to build the right amenities. Parent union is a new thing in Nigeria, but nothing is impossible. Is there a PTA (Parent Teacher Association) in Nigeria?
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Post by Omoluabi on Jan 10, 2016 23:04:18 GMT
hmmmm...... How many homes can they visit to carry out their checks? How many 'checkers' will they involve to carry out the checking? are they planning to add to the already over bloated civil service whose emoluments they're straining to pay? I don't think it's going to be practicable. I'll rather they empower teachers with better pay and better condition of service so the teachers can give their best in school and get the children interested in education. we have truancy majorly because schools have become less attractive to pupils(poor infrastructure, no recreational facilities, no real learning etc) and teachers are not always at their duty posts as they have to seek other ways to make ends meet. motivate the teachers and see them transfer that motivation to their pupils.
Please what's your old/NL ID? ------------------------ Are you placing the blame on teachers? Are you assuming that teachers are the reason for pupils' absence? I agree with you that Schools are now less attractive and more penalizing, however, pupils (children) shouldn't have the choice to decide when they go to school. I can't imagine my child telling me that he no wan go school. Parents have that right and they need to exercise it. They need to form a union and force the schools to build the right amenities. Parent union is a new thing in Nigeria, but nothing is impossible. Is there a PTA (Parent Teacher Association) in Nigeria? I'm placing the blame on govt and of course parents. How can anyone blame teachers who hardly ever get paid? truants don't stay home during classes. They leave home ostensibly to report at school but they never get there or get there and sneak away. Those sent to hawk goods are of course the fault of their parents. However making school attractive through quality teaching and amenities will make pupils enthusiastic about education again. yeah there are PTA everywhere in the country this is theV0ice
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 23:11:00 GMT
Please what's your old/NL ID? ------------------------ Are you placing the blame on teachers? Are you assuming that teachers are the reason for pupils' absence? I agree with you that Schools are now less attractive and more penalizing, however, pupils (children) shouldn't have the choice to decide when they go to school. I can't imagine my child telling me that he no wan go school. Parents have that right and they need to exercise it. They need to form a union and force the schools to build the right amenities. Parent union is a new thing in Nigeria, but nothing is impossible. Is there a PTA (Parent Teacher Association) in Nigeria? I'm placing the blame on govt and of course parents. How can anyone blame teachers who hardly ever get paid? truants don't stay home during classes. They leave home ostensibly to report at school but they never get there or get there and sneak away. Those sent to hawk goods are of course the fault of their parents. However making school attractive through quality teaching and amenities will make pupils enthusiastic about education again.
yeah there are PTA everywhere in the country this is theV0ice Makes sense. I used to climb over the school gate and follow my grandma home without her knowledge  You're a parent, have you ever been involved with PTA? Are they effective?
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Post by Omoluabi on Jan 10, 2016 23:15:28 GMT
I'm placing the blame on govt and of course parents. How can anyone blame teachers who hardly ever get paid? truants don't stay home during classes. They leave home ostensibly to report at school but they never get there or get there and sneak away. Those sent to hawk goods are of course the fault of their parents. However making school attractive through quality teaching and amenities will make pupils enthusiastic about education again.
yeah there are PTA everywhere in the country this is theV0ice Makes sense. I used to climb over the school gate and follow my grandma home without her knowledge You're a parent, have you ever been involved with PTA? Are they effective? @the bold, i would have been alarmed if you didn't do that The PTA these days are tools for manipulating parents into parting with more and more cash for the school proprietor. They're toothless. I don't know how it works in the govt schools but i doubt it's effective there as well
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 10, 2016 23:18:46 GMT
Makes sense. I used to climb over the school gate and follow my grandma home without her knowledge You're a parent, have you ever been involved with PTA? Are they effective? @the bold, i would have been alarmed if you didn't do that The PTA these days are tools for manipulating parents into parting with more and more cash for the school proprietor. They're toothless.
I don't know how it works in the govt schools but i doubt it's effective there as well Same ish in every sector. Nigeria needs serious cleansing. Egunjes everywhere.
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Post by Honorebu on Jan 10, 2016 23:33:48 GMT
Good move bbbut at the same time, It's not all about that.There are other reasons for student absenteeism. You might force me to be in school and I still won't be interested.I'm only in school because I'm being forced to.
They should also open vocational schools so that pupils can start doing what they are really interested in starting from SS1
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 0:24:20 GMT
I support it 100% Absolutely unheard of that in this day and age, a child of school going age should be out of school. Education is no longer a matter of choice in these times we live in.
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