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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 0:26:17 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free. Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized. Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law? Expanciate..... Te SW isn't worse off than other regions of Nigeria. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 0:29:43 GMT
I think this is a great step stone to tackle the recurring education problem in the SW, however, this system can only work in a region where education is free. Unless Ogun state plans on making education free, or reducing it to an affordable amount, many parents will be penalized. Is Nigeria ready for this kind of system? Is there a "Children and Family Services" that will enforce this law? Expanciate..... Te SW isn't worse off than other regions of Nigeria. Let's not compare ourselves to other regions. Let's compare then to now. Now, we have more youths on the streets than in School. |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 0:32:24 GMT
Expanciate..... Te SW isn't worse off than other regions of Nigeria. Let's not compare ourselves to other regions. Let's compare then to now. Now, we have more youths on the streets than in School. When you say "Then", what time frame are you referring to? Because the fact that you didn't see uneducated people in the streets didn't mean that they didn't exist , maybe doing something else in the villages. Just that now, illiterates are more visible in cities than say - 1970. Infact literacy figures have only been going up. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 0:38:07 GMT
Let's not compare ourselves to other regions. Let's compare then to now. Now, we have more youths on the streets than in School. When you say "Then", what time frame are you referring to? Because the fact that you didn't see uneducated people in the streets didn't mean that they didn't exist , maybe doing something else in the villages. Just that now, illiterates are more visible in cities than say - 1970. Infact literacy figures have only been going up. I'm refering to post Free education. What has caused this visibility in a rich oil country that prides itself in "Knowledge is power" or in a region that practices free education? Compare Ekiti's pride in education back then to now. |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 0:43:51 GMT
When you say "Then", what time frame are you referring to? Because the fact that you didn't see uneducated people in the streets didn't mean that they didn't exist , maybe doing something else in the villages. Just that now, illiterates are more visible in cities than say - 1970. Infact literacy figures have only been going up. I'm refering to post Free education. What has caused this visibility in a rich oil country that prides itself in "Knowledge is power" or in a region that practices free education? Compare Ekiti's pride in education back then to now. What has caused the visibility is increased Rural-Urban migration. Ekiti is still fine. Just that now, other regions of the country are also doing just as well, which means ekiti does not really stand out as it used to before. For example in the old Oyo state, the Ijeshas used to stand out as the most educated group, now, almost everyone else in Osun state is on par. The only region of Yorubaland I am concerned about is Oke-Ogun axis of Oyo State. |
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Post by Omoluabi on Jan 11, 2016 0:59:48 GMT
I'm refering to post Free education. What has caused this visibility in a rich oil country that prides itself in "Knowledge is power" or in a region that practices free education? Compare Ekiti's pride in education back then to now. What has caused the visibility is increased Rural-Urban migration. Ekiti is still fine. Just that now, other regions of the country are also doing just as well, which means ekiti does not really stand out as it used to before. For example in the old Oyo state, the Ijeshas used to stand out as the most educated group, now, almost everyone else in Osun state is on par. The only region of Yorubaland I am concerned about is Oke-Ogun axis of Oyo State. @the bold, They prefer churning out alfas than doctors and engineers |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 1:03:21 GMT
What has caused the visibility is increased Rural-Urban migration. Ekiti is still fine. Just that now, other regions of the country are also doing just as well, which means ekiti does not really stand out as it used to before. For example in the old Oyo state, the Ijeshas used to stand out as the most educated group, now, almost everyone else in Osun state is on par. The only region of Yorubaland I am concerned about is Oke-Ogun axis of Oyo State. @the bold, They prefer churning out alfas than doctors and engineers Infact!!! Oyo state government needs to do something.... That place is the reason Oyo state has the least educational statistics in the SW. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 1:07:04 GMT
I'm refering to post Free education. What has caused this visibility in a rich oil country that prides itself in "Knowledge is power" or in a region that practices free education? Compare Ekiti's pride in education back then to now. What has caused the visibility is increased Rural-Urban migration. Ekiti is still fine. Just that now, other regions of the country are also doing just as well, which means ekiti does not really stand out as it used to before. For example in the old Oyo state, the Ijeshas used to stand out as the most educated group, now, almost everyone else in Osun state is on par. The only region of Yorubaland I am concerned about is Oke-Ogun axis of Oyo State. Rural urban migration is keeping our kids out of school or are you implying that migrants aren't enrolling in school? May I remind you that we're talking about Yoruba youths, not other migrants in Yorubaland. |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 1:11:06 GMT
What has caused the visibility is increased Rural-Urban migration. Ekiti is still fine. Just that now, other regions of the country are also doing just as well, which means ekiti does not really stand out as it used to before. For example in the old Oyo state, the Ijeshas used to stand out as the most educated group, now, almost everyone else in Osun state is on par. The only region of Yorubaland I am concerned about is Oke-Ogun axis of Oyo State. Rural urban migration is keeping our kids out of school or are you implying that migrants aren't enrolling in school? May I remind you that we're talking about Yoruba youths, not other migrants in Yorubaland. I am implying that uneducated people are more visible, because more people are living in cities. You will see more of everything actually. More Intellectuals and more Stark illiterates, everything go dey. At the height of the Western region's free education scheme, what percentage of school going Yoruba youth do you think were educated? Take a guess. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 1:19:00 GMT
Rural urban migration is keeping our kids out of school or are you implying that migrants aren't enrolling in school? May I remind you that we're talking about Yoruba youths, not other migrants in Yorubaland. I am implying that uneducated people are more visible, because more people are living in cities. You will see more of everything actually. More Intellectuals and more Stark illiterates, everything go dey. At the height of the Western region's free education scheme, what percentage of school going Yoruba youth do you think were educated? Take a guess. Above 50%, I hope. Lol that's like saying "the poverty rate is fine, 70% is no biggie because we have more people now". In your opinion, what is the rough estimate of Yoruba children who are in school vs who arent? |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 1:28:47 GMT
I am implying that uneducated people are more visible, because more people are living in cities. You will see more of everything actually. More Intellectuals and more Stark illiterates, everything go dey. At the height of the Western region's free education scheme, what percentage of school going Yoruba youth do you think were educated? Take a guess. Lol that's like saying "the poverty rate is fine, 70% is no biggie because we have more people now". In your opinion, what is the rough estimate of Yoruba children who are in school vs who arent? lai-lai, I think It was like something around 40%, which was an achievement at the time, because when the Brits left, I doubt anywhere in Nigeria had up to 15% literacy rate.  So Yoruba kids of school going age out of the system at the moment, maybe 10%. Mostly in rural areas. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 1:35:11 GMT
I think we need to worry about Kwara state, look how light it is compared to the rest of the SW.
I'd like to have the source of your data and the date this statistic was culled.
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 1:40:07 GMT
I think we need to worry about Kwara state, look how light it is compared to the rest of the SW. I'd like to have the source of your data and the date this statistic was culled. Be rest assured that the relative lightness of Kwara compared to others in the SW (or South) is coming from the Nupes and Baribas, Not the Yorubas. Infact the Yorubas are the ones responsible for even making it appear in a green shade. Look at the state where those two tribes come from--- Niger State, it is RED! what you see in Kwara is their residual effect. BTW: You heard what Nupe youth from Tsaragi did to residents of Share, right? The data comes from the NBS Data portal, Navigate under the education section. |
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Post by Her Highness on Jan 11, 2016 1:46:17 GMT
I think we need to worry about Kwara state, look how light it is compared to the rest of the SW. I'd like to have the source of your data and the date this statistic was culled. Be rest assured that the relative lightness of Kwara compared to others in the SW (or South) is coming from the Nupes and Baribas, Not the Yorubas. Infact the Yorubas are the ones responsible for even making it appear in a green shade. Look at the state where those two tribes come from--- Niger State, it is RED! what you see in Kwara is their residual effect. BTW: You heard what Nupe youth from Tsaragi did to residents of Share, right? The data comes from the NBS Data portal, Navigate under the education section. I know there was an ethnic uproar, but I don't know the specifics. What did they do and what caused it? |
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jan 11, 2016 1:52:00 GMT
Be rest assured that the relative lightness of Kwara compared to others in the SW (or South) is coming from the Nupes and Baribas, Not the Yorubas. Infact the Yorubas are the ones responsible for even making it appear in a green shade. Look at the state where those two tribes come from--- Niger State, it is RED! what you see in Kwara is their residual effect. BTW: You heard what Nupe youth from Tsaragi did to residents of Share, right? The data comes from the NBS Data portal, Navigate under the education section. I know there was an ethnic uproar, but I don't know the specifics. What did they do and what caused it? Apparently some residents of Share (Ifelodun LG) were said to have cut down some dongoyaro trees in community primary school, Share, which is on their own land. Next thing, Nupe youth from Tsaragi (Edu LG) armed by their criminal Etsu, went to share and started burning down house and property. Isn't that just a symptom of stark illiteracy? Mind you, Share and Tsaragi are like two neighborhoods in the same town. |
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