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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Feb 24, 2016 14:47:24 GMT
The Yoruba people, a group within in Nigeria is known to have a rich and deep history not only in politics and economy but also in religion. Focusing on the latter, a litany of literature dedicated to the religion of Yoruba people abound. Specifically Ile Ife, a town not only regarded as the source of modern Yoruba monarchical system but also as the spiritual center of the Yoruba – no wonder every Yoruba religion adherent flock to Ile-Ife at certain periods of the year to celebrate one festival or the other. Ile Ife is known to dedicate every day of the year (in Yoruba calendar) except one to 401 deities but the aspect of its religion that has over the years gathered a rapid worldwide notoriety is Ifa. Ifa’s spread can be attributed to the Yoruba slaves who were taken to the Americas but preserved their culture and also the recent influx of non-Nigerians to Yoruba land, especially Africans in the Americas who are apart from whatever numerous reasons they may have mostly seek to reconnect to their ‘roots – thanks to globalization for playing a major role here. As a result of the ‘shock’ from the sudden spread of the religion, there appears a lot of misinformation or poorly researched information put in the public space over the initiation, obligations of having Ifa at the house and the hierarchy of Ifa chiefs who serve as the pillars of Ifa knowledge in Ile-Ife/Yoruba – the paper will focus on the latter.  (to be continued). |
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Post by oduabachanal on Feb 24, 2016 21:51:44 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source, Don't leave me in suspense. Haba! When you serve jollof with shaki and abodi, you don't show us colorful menu and tell us to wait. Serve the dish joo! @(to be continued) One question? Is it true that the new Ooni married a bini olosho?
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Feb 25, 2016 14:31:16 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source, Don't leave me in suspense. Haba! When you serve jollof with shaki and abodi, you don't show us colorful menu and tell us to wait. Serve the dish joo! @(to be continued) One question? Is it true that the new Ooni married a bini olosho? Lool! Egbon e ma binu, waiting on some information before I go further ni. You killed me with the Bini oloso  ?. Na so me sef hear o say na Bini girl out of all Yoruba towns - even Modakeke! |
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Post by oduabachanal on Feb 29, 2016 21:12:59 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source , Don't leave me in suspense. Haba! When you serve jollof with shaki and abodi, you don't show us colorful menu and tell us to wait. Serve the dish joo! @(to be continued) One question? Is it true that the new Ooni married a bini olosho? Lool! Egbon e ma binu, waiting on some information before I go further ni. You killed me with the Bini oloso ?. Na so me sef hear o say na Bini girl out of all Yoruba towns - even Modakeke! Bros, Obaship in Yorubaland is a joke. The bini gal ooni married has tainted rumors surrounding her. Na by force to strengthen ties with bini kingdom? If that is the case, Italy should name a street after bini women. What are Isese people saying about this? Don't you think it's high time we stand on our own? |
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Post by osoronga on Mar 1, 2016 6:29:30 GMT
Bini olosho, LOL. won't be surprised, you men are controlled by your little heads ........ Anyway., I'm so glad this thread has BEN started, I've been looking for this info. So far I have only established that number 1 on the Ifa chieftain you ranking is Araba Aworeni of Ile Ife who is the Araba Agbaye, (world spiritual leader of all Ifa followers) followed by Agbongbon Awo, Akoda Awo, Aseda Awo, Jolofinpe In that order theyoruba.com/2016/02/05/meet-a-babalawo/ oduabachanal, Omo Oba of the Source, |
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Mar 2, 2016 15:56:32 GMT
Lool! Egbon e ma binu, waiting on some information before I go further ni. You killed me with the Bini oloso ?. Na so me sef hear o say na Bini girl out of all Yoruba towns - even Modakeke! Bros, Obaship in Yorubaland is a joke. The bini gal ooni married has tainted rumors surrounding her. Na by force to strengthen ties with bini kingdom? If that is the case, Italy should name a street after bini women. What are Isese people saying about this? Don't you think it's high time we stand on our own? Italy keh?! LOL! I see baba mi binu. I have heard there are stories surrounding that lady and I'm praying that, if indeed she has tales, they should come out in the open so it will force Ooni to change lanes. Like my Oga Shymexx and I agreed, our Ooni is going overboard with his peace ambassadorship - something he could have proven by picking an Oyo lady or one from our backyard, Modakeke. |
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Mar 2, 2016 16:16:26 GMT
Bini olosho, LOL. won't be surprised, you men are controlled by your little heads ........ Anyway., I'm so glad this thread has BEN started, I've been looking for this info. So far I have only established that number 1 on the Ifa chieftain you ranking is Araba Aworeni of Ile Ife who is the Araba Agbaye, (world spiritual leader of all Ifa followers) followed by Agbongbon Awo, Akoda Awo, Aseda Awo, Jolofinpe In that order theyoruba.com/2016/02/05/meet-a-babalawo/ oduabachanal , Omo Oba of the Source , OK, Iya this your username though - mo fi ori bale, mo juba, mo te owo mejeeji siyin fun ire gbogbo ni tori eni ti o ba ti di omo Osoronga kii ri ija Osoronga, ire, itoju, ike, igbega and paapa julo, eyonu ni a ma ri lati odo awon Osoronga. I looked through the link you shared, thank you for it. However, I should state that I intended for this thread to go into details such as history and 'proper' ranking of these 16 Babalawo Olodu and how they're distributed within certain original 13 hamlets of Ife which Oduduwa merged into about 5. Most non-awos and awos are oblivious/not privy to certain facts of Ifa chieftaincy such that people replicate the chieftain-cy order in different towns there-by making the Babalawo Olodu appear 'regular'. An error in the nice post on the website you shared: the person is said to be the grandson of a past Agbongbon but he said Agbongbon is next in rank to Araba. This is wrong, Agbongbon and Araba can be said to be equal to an extent. Here's a saying 'Agbongbon l'awo Ile-Ife'. Agbongbon was the actual leading position in Ifa at Ile-Ife and Araba as a title came much later due to the politics at Oke Itase. A certain Agbongbon was the maternal grandfather to the first Araba who returned to Ife and since he couldn't fill his Grandpa's post from being Ife from Mother's side, he decided to hold his biological father's post (Araba) which became a custom title for the Oke Itase family from where Aworeni came from. You hear of Araba of this, Araba of that. Araba as a title is restricted to the Oke Itase family but I guess they couldn't come up with a title for Ifa lead-preists in other places to use, hence every other person in other towns use 'Araba'. I hope this makes sense? Also, after Akoda, Aseda is Agesinyowa and not Jolofinpe who is the 16th. I guess Araba has been discussed then, next will be Agbongbon. |
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Post by osoronga on Mar 2, 2016 19:37:23 GMT
Wow! Omo Oba of the Source, Thanks v much! For the prayers and the info! :-) very informative ! I just chose the name from memory of an old movie :-). Looking forward to hearing more about the ranking and titles with much excitement |
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Post by osoronga on Mar 3, 2016 11:46:05 GMT
I've been in conversations about (white) oduabachanal, people coming purposely to Yorubaland to appropriate stuff for monetary purposes, so after this chat with you Omo Oba of the Source, I was shocked to come across this profile on Facebook ! He's calling himself Awo Agbaye Aworeni and the CEO of Egbe Aworeni. Isn't that too close for comfort to Araba Agbaye whose actual surname is Aworeni ?? Who's making sure these traditions institutions are properly protected legally? Na wa! The file won't upload it's too big... Just search Majeobaje Awo Agbaye Babaomar Aworeni..... |
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Mar 3, 2016 15:50:54 GMT
I've been in conversations about (white) oduabachanal, people coming purposely to Yorubaland to appropriate stuff for monetary purposes, so after this chat with you Omo Oba of the Source, I was shocked to come across this profile on Facebook ! He's calling himself Awo Agbaye Aworeni and the CEO of Egbe Aworeni. Isn't that too close for comfort to Araba Agbaye whose actual surname is Aworeni ?? Who's making sure these traditions institutions are properly protected legally? Na wa! The file won't upload it's too big... Just search Majeobaje Awo Agbaye Babaomar Aworeni..... The culture appropriation is strong and the economic aspect of it cannot be overstated; these people are learning little, confusing what they have learnt and making money out of it. I have checked out the profile; the Aworeni like the Elebuibon family in Osogbo have integrated many foreigners into their fold for whatevr reasons best known to them - maybe money. These foreigners are forgetting Baba Aworeni is old and although he shall live longer, he would have to go meet his ancestors soon and another Aworeni may not touch that spot for a century or more. These people just find any popular name, attach to it and begin to earn clout or money off it. Thank God Obatala's chieftaincy is well defined and rooted in the family so much for anyone to 'famz' |
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Post by osoronga on Mar 3, 2016 16:32:57 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source, thanks for your reply and clarification ! That's reassuring. Thank Eledumare for Inbuilt traditional protection.
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Mar 3, 2016 16:51:24 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source , thanks for your reply and clarification ! That's reassuring. Thank Eledumare for Inbuilt traditional protection. We may lose these protections if our people keep trying to integrate whites for whatever reasons. Teach them, yes. Integrated then into awo has family, no. Reveal secrets to them, no. Confer titles on them, no. If anything, these things should be preserved as the rights of African Americans (or in the diaspora) not given to caucasians or anything with caucasian features - even latin americans -_- Sadly, I've heard from some awos who believe Ifa or Iseese should not be restricted to Africans/melanated because 'Ifa is for everybody' I see this thought as a result of naivety or attempt to expand market. No, I'm not racist. |
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Post by colonial pikin on Mar 3, 2016 18:54:35 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source I saw one with the title araba of offaland...he even have pics with d present ooni...wearing crown and stuff.
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Post by osoronga on Mar 3, 2016 20:05:30 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source I saw one with the title araba of offaland...he even have pics with d present ooni...wearing crown and stuff. , I was trying to tag you but couldn't find you. Sadly it looks like the Ooni is not interested in preserving this as his face is fully turned to Christianity...  Omo Oba of the Source, what exactly do you think can be done to halt this?? Soon this ranking that we are trying to understand will soon scatter if other malevolent elements enter.... |
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Post by Omo Oba of the Source on Mar 3, 2016 23:05:34 GMT
Omo Oba of the Source I saw one with the title araba of offaland...he even have pics with d present ooni...wearing crown and stuff. Lol i just looked it up on FB. Is Offaland outside of Nigeria now? I don't understand this recent adoption of white/caucasian looking folks into our stuff o! But I know our own people here are doing these things for money, visa and relevance. And some are so naive that anything looking white excites them for no reason. |
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?. Na so me sef hear o say na Bini girl out of all Yoruba towns - even Modakeke!
