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Post by omohayek on Apr 9, 2016 12:54:50 GMT
That's a recipe for a pogrom of our kins up North and given our fragile state. I prefer pressure on the government so they are forced to act just like they reluctantly had to deal with Boko Haram. I don't see how you can expect any amount of pressure to have an effect on a government led by a man who consoled the Belgians but said nothing about Agatu, who told Al-Jazeera that how parents paid for their children's foreign study was their own business, and who has not allowed a 10-month late budget and nationwide fuel shortages stop him from continuing his foreign junketing. If Buhari has not shown he gives a damn about such matters, do you really think he will yield on the issue of the herdsmen who are his own kith and kin?
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Post by Honorebu on Apr 9, 2016 12:57:05 GMT
omohayek, wouldn't that destabilize our region? Remember we're fighting with people who have nothing to lose They don't even have homes
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Post by omohayek on Apr 9, 2016 13:10:23 GMT
omohayek , wouldn't that destabilize our region? Remember we're fighting with people who have nothing to lose They don't even have homes As you know, the last thing I'd want is anything that would destabilize our region, but what other alternative do we have other than surrender? If we sit back and do nothing - and that's what it means to rely on the Nigerian army to contain these herdsmen - their attacks will only become more and more brazen, as they will come to believe that we really are the cowards the Biafran idiots like to accuse us of being. Do we want to be reduced to slaves in our own homeland? The mistake the OPC members guarding Falae's farm made was the same one many others have also made, which is acting as if this were a matter of policing, rather than outright warfare. If you know you're dealing with a group that likes to retaliate for losses by calling for backup and carrying out revenge attacks, you have to wipe them all out at once, rather than allowing them to leave and call reinforcements. We have to treat these animals in the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinian militant groups (who also say they have nothing to lose), or the Russians dealt with the Chechen suicide bombers: retaliate with such overwhelming force that the few of them who are left alive won't dare twitch even an eyebrow without first asking for permission.
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Post by olukumi on Apr 9, 2016 13:12:44 GMT
That's a recipe for a pogrom of our kins up North and given our fragile state. I prefer pressure on the government so they are forced to act just like they reluctantly had to deal with Boko Haram. I don't see how you can expect any amount of pressure to have an effect on a government led by a man who consoled the Belgians but said nothing about Agatu, who told Al-Jazeera that how parents paid for their children's foreign study was their own business, and who has not allowed a 10-month late budget and nationwide fuel shortages stop him from continuing his foreign junketing. If Buhari has not shown he gives a damn about such matters, do you really think he will yield on the issue of the herdsmen who are his own kith and kin? I am a big critic of Buhari’s aloof and bordering on callous style of leadership. But he isn't immune to huge civil and political pressure. He will capitulate if he ignores the type of June 12 pressure SW is capable of pulling. This problem isn't isolated to our region, our middle belt, Edo and Igbo cousins will join in. In as much as I'd like to get rid of those sons of b$tches like everybody else. I'd prefer we manage the risk of a full scale ethnic cleansing war. We have way too much to lose in terms of investments and quality of life than risk going head-on with people that have a nomadic way of life with nothing to lose. Wait till they see a religious angle in it and all hell breaks lose. Every single fulani will want to fuck seven virgins by blowing up a bunch of Yorubas. Mba. Bikonu. The situation can be better managed with political pressure IMO.
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Post by omohayek on Apr 9, 2016 13:34:49 GMT
I am a big critic of Buhari’s aloof and bordering on callous style of leadership. But he isn't immune to huge civil and political pressure. He will capitulate if he ignores the type of June 12 pressure SW is capable of pulling. This problem isn't isolated to our region, our middle belt, Edo and Igbo cousins will join in. In as much as I'd like to get rid of those sons of b$tches like everybody else. I'd prefer we manage the risk of a full scale ethnic cleansing war. We have way too much to lose in terms of investments and quality of life than risk going head-on with people that have a nomadic way of life with nothing to lose. Wait till they see a religious angle in it and all hell breaks lose. Every single fulani will want to fuck seven virgins by blowing up a bunch of Yorubas. Mba. Bikonu. The situation can be better managed with political pressure IMO. Let us hope you are right, though I will say that I don't hold much hope of Buhari yielding on this or anything else, no matter the level of pressure that is put on him. The last time around it took Babangida forcing him from office to get meaningful change after Buhari's statist policies and reign by terror had brought the entire nation to the edge of ruin. If I am right, and Buhari refuses to take meaningful action against his fellow wanderers, then the realities on the ground will force the creation of just the sort of force I'm advocating, no matter what we might prefer. Our ancestors fought and pushed back much better trained and organized forces from the north in the 19th century, so why should we, who have a technological edge our forefathers did not, live in fear of these herdsmen? Let's learn from Israel: they've taught the Arabs well that being willing to act like savages isn't enough to guarantee victory, and they've done so despite being outnumbered by the Arabs more than 10 times over. On the other hand, we alone outnumber the entire Fulani population in West Africa by 3 or 4 times, let alone when we combine our numbers with other Middle Belt and Southern groups affected by their actions. There is simply no excuse for us to back down in the face of Fulani terrorism.
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Post by Honorebu on Apr 9, 2016 13:42:32 GMT
omohayek , wouldn't that destabilize our region? Remember we're fighting with people who have nothing to lose They don't even have homes As you know, the last thing I'd want is anything that would destabilize our region, but what other alternative do we have other than surrender? If we sit back and do nothing - and that's what it means to rely on the Nigerian army to contain these herdsmen - their attacks will only become more and more brazen, as they will come to believe that we really are the cowards the Biafran idiots like to accuse us of being. Do we want to be reduced to slaves in our own homeland? The mistake the OPC members guarding Falae's farm made was the same one many others have also made, which is acting as if this were a matter of policing, rather than outright warfare. If you know you're dealing with a group that likes to retaliate for losses by calling for backup and carrying out revenge attacks, you have to wipe them all out at once, rather than allowing them to leave and call reinforcements. We have to treat these animals in the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinian militant groups (who also say they have nothing to lose), or the Russians dealt with the Chechen suicide bombers: retaliate with such overwhelming force that the few of them who are left alive won't dare twitch even an eyebrow without first asking for permission. I feel the best thing to do is to stage a massive protest in Yorubaland but then again, do Yorubas care? Just like every other thing, is the consciousness there? Hitting them back is kamikaze
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Post by omohayek on Apr 9, 2016 13:59:15 GMT
I feel the best thing to do is to stage a massive protest in Yorubaland but then again, do Yorubas care? Just like every other thing, is the consciousness there? Hitting them back is kamikaze Most may not care now, but give it time and they will! The one thing we can count on is that these Fulani attacks will become more frequent and bolder, and there will come a point where even the most complacent will realize that it could be their turn to fall victim tomorrow. That is when even the peace-loving, middle-class urban types will realize that this issue touches their own lives as well.
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Post by Honorebu on Apr 9, 2016 14:58:19 GMT
I feel the best thing to do is to stage a massive protest in Yorubaland but then again, do Yorubas care? Just like every other thing, is the consciousness there? Hitting them back is kamikaze Most may not care now, but give it time and they will! The one thing we can count on is that these Fulani attacks will become more frequent and bolder, and there will come a point where even the most complacent will realize that it could be their turn to fall victim tomorrow. That is when even the peace-loving, middle-class urban types will realize that this issue touches their own lives as well. If they haven't cared till this point that someone like Falae has been kidnapped twice, farmlands destroyed,women raped, then I have no idea when they will. They will only care until it hits them directly. That's the Yoruba story my brother You saw how some Yorubas were chanting No to one Nigeria during the Mile 12 Yoruba-Hausa clash? They wouldn't have said the same few hours before that happened
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Post by Her Highness on Apr 10, 2016 1:18:49 GMT
The same Falae agbayi that ate N100m yam while his people are hungry, our education system low on funds etc? Sorry guys, I'm really finding it hard to care. Ileke, try care o. Me too dey vex for the baba but this kind nonsense is becoming unbecoming Egbon, ewo to ba je pe elo miran ni, a dun mi. Sugbon, se nitori agbaya yen ni ki n wa ma po'to fun? Bi oga omohayek se so, Falae le ra security fun ra e. As for the Fulani menace, when Yorubas start doing what Abians are doing to Fulani terrorists, e je ki n mo. As for the Yoruba idiots (because that's what they are) calling Abians names for killing Fualni herdsmens, I have nothing but pity for them.
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Post by Omoluabi on Apr 10, 2016 6:48:31 GMT
Ileke, try care o. Me too dey vex for the baba but this kind nonsense is becoming unbecoming Egbon, ewo to ba je pe elo miran ni, a dun mi. Sugbon, se nitori agbaya yen ni ki n wa ma po'to fun? Bi oga omohayek se so, Falae le ra security fun ra e. As for the Fulani menace, when Yorubas start doing what Abians are doing to Fulani terrorists, e je ki n mo. As for the Yoruba idiots (because that's what they are) calling Abians names for killing Fualni herdsmens, I have nothing but pity for them. If truly those guys retaliated, then they deserve an award. The provocation is becoming unbearable
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Post by Her Highness on Apr 10, 2016 16:19:43 GMT
Egbon, ewo to ba je pe elo miran ni, a dun mi. Sugbon, se nitori agbaya yen ni ki n wa ma po'to fun? Bi oga omohayek se so, Falae le ra security fun ra e. As for the Fulani menace, when Yorubas start doing what Abians are doing to Fulani terrorists, e je ki n mo. As for the Yoruba idiots (because that's what they are) calling Abians names for killing Fualni herdsmens, I have nothing but pity for them. If truly those guys retaliated, then they deserve an award. The provocation is becoming unbearable But seriously, why isn't Buhari investigating Fulani terrorism? They're #4 terrorist group in Africa.
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Post by Omoluabi on Apr 10, 2016 17:31:37 GMT
If truly those guys retaliated, then they deserve an award. The provocation is becoming unbearable But seriously, why isn't Buhari investigating Fulani terrorism? They're #4 terrorist group in Africa. Its very annoying honestly and the way more he keeps silent about it, the more easily I'll believe any/every creative conspiracy theories that get thrown up
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Post by Merchantt on Apr 13, 2016 10:51:04 GMT
Omohayek have said it all.
Killing is the only language those skinny bastard understand. Total extermination, like they do in Ilaro, is what the savages need.
Don't allow a soul to escape and call for reinforcement, kill them all. Ilaro Treatment is the only solution.
I'm sick of discussing the Tse Tse Flies.
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Post by dansoye1 on Apr 13, 2016 18:08:24 GMT
Not confronting these vermin can only embolden them to wreck more havoc.Our people should put politics aside,galvanize themselves and deal with them.
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Post by Honorebu on Apr 14, 2016 14:45:13 GMT
Could this be a retaliation? Fulani Herdsman Slayed In Ondo State As Police Avert Ethnic Clash
at could have led to an ethnic clash between Fulani nomadic herdsmen and aggrieved farmers was quickly averted on Wednesday as some unidentified persons murdered a popular Fulani herdsman, Dan Bako, in Ilara-Mokin, Ifededore Local Government Area (LGA), Ondo State. Ali Dongo, the head of Fulani nomadic herdsmen in Ondo State, confirmed the death of Mr. Bako to journalists shortly after meeting with the Commissioner of Police, Hilda Ibifuro-Hallison, in Akure. He said they have met with family members and kinsmen of the victim for questioning to try to determine the reason for the murder of Mr. Bako. It was discovered that the deceased was earlier declared missing by his family members who reside in a village on the outskirts of the community before the corpse was found on Wednesday. Mr. Dongo revealed that the late Mr. Bako was sent on an errand with his motorcycle to buy food in a nearby village. SaharaReporters gathered that the motorcycle of the deceased was later found on the path of the bush by a member of the search party put together by sympathizers in the village. Some farmers in the community who spoke with SaharaReporters denied any link with the death of the herdsman. “The rumor filtering into the town that the deceased must have been killed by farmers in the village is a blatant lie sponsored to cause inter-ethnic war in our community and the State at large. We are peace-loving people and many of them have been living with us here for the past eight years,” one of the sources said. “We don’t know anything about the death of the Fulani herdsman. I learned that his dead body was found in a bush today. Some days ago he had been declared missing by some members of his family,” another farmer said. He explained that the village came together to search for Mr. Bako. “My uncle who is a cassava farmer even volunteered to join the search party put together by the heads of the Fulani that came to sympathize with the people of the village. Every nook and cranny of the community was thoroughly searched but nothing was found until today." Ondo State Police Commissioner Hilda Ibifuro-Hallison, who spoke about the incident during a meeting with Fulani herdsmen and aggrieved farmers in the community, said police have been deployed to the community. “The incident that happened in Ilara-Mokin was quickly averted today by the police. Our men have taken control of the community to avoid any break down of law and order,” she said. Ms. Ibifuro-Hallison pleaded with both the Fulani herdsmen and farmers to live together peacefully while the police continue their investigation. Saharareporters
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