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Post by Honorebu on Jun 21, 2017 21:03:24 GMT
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 22, 2017 7:49:00 GMT
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jun 22, 2017 14:33:32 GMT
I just hope they take a leaf from the Chinese build stations and gauge in Kenya and stop building thrash like what presently lies between Abuja and Kaduna.
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 22, 2017 16:17:33 GMT
I just hope they take a leaf from the Chinese build stations and gauge in Kenya and stop building thrash like what presently lies between Abuja and Kaduna. I agree. The Chinese can build us world-class infrastructure if we design and demand it, same way they can also build you crappy stuff if you allow them the carte Blanche to do what they like.
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 22, 2017 20:45:40 GMT
Baba, I have to be pessimistic with this one. I've heard so many statements like this only to end up disappointed. I won't hold my breath until I see them actually commissioning it
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 22, 2017 20:48:24 GMT
I just hope they take a leaf from the Chinese build stations and gauge in Kenya and stop building thrash like what presently lies between Abuja and Kaduna. I agree. The Chinese can build us world-class infrastructure if we design and demand it, same way they can also build you crappy stuff if you allow them the carte Blanche to do what they like. Random: Do you think they have a hidden agenda with all these infrastructures they're building all over Africa?
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 22, 2017 20:52:31 GMT
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jun 22, 2017 20:58:26 GMT
No, not the trains. The lines and the Stations!
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Post by skebe on Jun 22, 2017 21:04:09 GMT
Hard to trust Chinese products. Chinese hardly build long lasting products. Their products are always cheaper, though aided by cheap labor. I.e, the Huawei people have put Ericsson out of telecom business in naija. What they do is, they come with way cheaper products, and tell the telecoms products to pay by installments. The top managers always find the offer interesting ditching Ericsson products, but the real engineers working with those Huawei products know the type of market, their company don buy. Who knows whether they are employing same tactics here
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 22, 2017 21:07:56 GMT
Hard to trust Chinese products. Chinese hardly build long lasting products. Their products are always cheaper, though aided by cheap labor. I.e, the Huawei people have put Ericsson out of telecom business in naija. What they do is, they come with way cheaper products, and tell the telecoms products to pay by installments. The top managers always find the offer interesting ditching Ericsson products, but the real engineers working with those Huawei products know the type of market, their company don buy. Who knows whether they are employing same tactics here Hmmm omohayek Ki le ri so si eleyi Sir
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 22, 2017 21:50:39 GMT
I agree. The Chinese can build us world-class infrastructure if we design and demand it, same way they can also build you crappy stuff if you allow them the carte Blanche to do what they like. Random: Do you think they have a hidden agenda with all these infrastructures they're building all over Africa? They probably do. But for now all that seems less important than the immediate 'gains' developing countries like Nigeria seem to benefiting from there; from cheap loans to FDI to infrastructure at a lower cost compared to the West. China is destined to replace the U.S as the number one economy in the world in a matter of a few decades maybe. It's actually already a Superpower as well sef. Perhaps their end game in their courting of African states is to have a bargaining chip in the power struggle that is sure to play out between them and the West over African resources in the near future.
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 23, 2017 3:03:27 GMT
Random: Do you think they have a hidden agenda with all these infrastructures they're building all over Africa? They probably do. But for now all that seems less important than the immediate 'gains' developing countries like Nigeria seem to benefiting from there; from cheap loans to FDI to infrastructure at a lower cost compared to the West. China is destined to replace the U.S as the number one economy in the world in a matter of a few decades maybe. It's actually already a Superpower as well sef. Perhaps their end game in their courting of African states is to have a bargaining chip in the power struggle that is sure to play out between them and the West over African resources in the near future. Chai!! Blackie don suffer.
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Post by omohayek on Jun 23, 2017 6:08:00 GMT
Hard to trust Chinese products. Chinese hardly build long lasting products. Their products are always cheaper, though aided by cheap labor. I.e, the Huawei people have put Ericsson out of telecom business in naija. What they do is, they come with way cheaper products, and tell the telecoms products to pay by installments. The top managers always find the offer interesting ditching Ericsson products, but the real engineers working with those Huawei products know the type of market, their company don buy. Who knows whether they are employing same tactics here Hmmm omohayek Ki le ri so si eleyi Sir I think this is an outmoded way of thinking, and doesn't reflect reality at all. Isn't this same China in which the iPhone is manufactured? Just because the Chinese had a reputation for unreliable ripoff products in the past doesn't mean it always has to stay that way; I remember when "Made in Korea" used to be a joke, and in the 1960s Americans also used to look down their noses at "Made in Japan", a negative perception that took a lot of time and effort to change to the positive one it has today. Everybody has to start somewhere, and if we ever get our acts together, we too will face this same problem of poor reputations in the beginning. Saying "Made in China" means "bad" is just wrong-headed.
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Post by skebe on Jun 23, 2017 7:41:45 GMT
I think this is an outmoded way of thinking, and doesn't reflect reality at all. Isn't this same China in which the iPhone is manufactured? Just because the Chinese had a reputation for unreliable ripoff products in the past doesn't mean it always has to stay that way; I remember when "Made in Korea" used to be a joke, and in the 1960s Americans also used to look down their noses at "Made in Japan", a negative perception that took a lot of time and effort to change to the positive one it has today. Everybody has to start somewhere, and if we ever get our acts together, we too will face this same problem of poor reputations in the beginning. Saying "Made in China" means "bad" is just wrong-headed. Boss, there is a difference between a product coming out of China, and a Chinese product. Iphone may be assembled in China, but it isn't Chinese product, because it isn't Chinese technology which is the major factor that determines the quality of a product. Apple companies in China also, do not follow Chinese business model. These are what to be considered. Why is Lenovo today, dissociating their products from being called Chinese product?
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Post by omohayek on Jun 23, 2017 12:41:29 GMT
I think this is an outmoded way of thinking, and doesn't reflect reality at all. Isn't this same China in which the iPhone is manufactured? Just because the Chinese had a reputation for unreliable ripoff products in the past doesn't mean it always has to stay that way; I remember when "Made in Korea" used to be a joke, and in the 1960s Americans also used to look down their noses at "Made in Japan", a negative perception that took a lot of time and effort to change to the positive one it has today. Everybody has to start somewhere, and if we ever get our acts together, we too will face this same problem of poor reputations in the beginning. Saying "Made in China" means "bad" is just wrong-headed. Boss, there is a difference between a product coming out of China, and a Chinese product. Iphone may be assembled in China, but it isn't Chinese product, because it isn't Chinese technology which is the major factor that determines the quality of a product. Apple companies in China also, do not follow Chinese business model. These are what to be considered. Why is Lenovo today, dissociating their products from being called Chinese product? This is a meaningless distinction. Foxconn, the actual assembler of the iPhone, is a 100% Chinese company, with an almost entirely Chinese workforce. Do you think there's anything stopping those Chinese workers from moving somewhere else? Besides, do you think Chinese companies can't hire non-Chinese staff? Do you realize that Chinese companies have already surpassed Japan as the 2nd biggest filers of patents in America? You need to let go of the outmoded image you have of China - even the Lenovo you mention remains a 100% Chinese company, and, ironically, your own statement shows that the problem Lenovo is trying to overcome is the prejudice many people still have about the quality of Chinese products.
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