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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jun 11, 2016 21:52:45 GMT
There was aPDF released by a British Geopolitician on the viability of a Biafran state with and without a Niger Delta... I will try and find it... Mo ti gbagbe ibi ti mo ti ri It was such an interesting read.
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Post by omohayek on Jun 11, 2016 22:15:50 GMT
Interesting. I foresee the country being restructured in the next few years. It's inevitable as a result of the general consensus in the South. But as for disintegration, eerm I don't see that happening anytime soon to be frank but who knows Like I stated in my earlier submission, Oil [money] is the tie that binds Nigeria as a country, and the ND militants are acting based on this true premise. Right after the counter coup that terminated Ironsi's govt, the leader of that coup in the person of the late Murtala Muhammed at some point almost effected the secession of the North from the rest of Nigeria, so that right there is enough evidence that under the right circumstance, the Northerners can also support secession from Nigeria if it aligns with their interests. Honestly IMO, a regional system will still fail once again if adopted just as it did the last time, unless it includes a clause that will make the path to secession an option coz such a system didn't prevent the Northerners who were in power at the centre even then, from meddling in the internal politics of the separate regions and playing the South against themselves,leading eventually to the collapse of the first republic just 6-years after independence. In fact i feel such a system will ultimately work against Yorubaland. The Western region suffered under the previous regional system coz regionalism didn't stop other tribes from flooding and invading the region and trying successfully to meddle in and destabilize her politically -- Zik's attempts to become Premiere in the Region, and the Akintola/Balewa/Ahmadu Bello alliance which culminated in the incaseration of Awo and destabilization of the region are classic case in point. Personally,I prefer outright disintegration coz I am tired of the hostility that the competition for power generates within the polity -- the 3 major tribes will always be out to sabotage each other for power. These are ethnicities that are homogeneous and big enough to stand alone as separate countries, so why force each other to remain together and hold back one another's progress??I see at least 2 reasons - one of which you already noted - namely that - The "oyel money" comes from the south, and the northern states are nothing without that source of funding.
- All the banks, the only functioning port, most of the telecoms infrastructure, and most of the other kinds of industry are all concentrated in one part of the country - the south-west. While the IPOB contingent can fool themselves into thinking they can manage without us as long as they can use the "oyel" and sea access of their south-south "blodas", the northerners don't have that option.
Without us or the Niger Delta, the north is basically just another landlocked, desertifying backwater like Niger.
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 11, 2016 22:43:03 GMT
There was aPDF released by a British Geopolitician on the viability of a Biafran state with and without a Niger Delta... I will try and find it... Mo ti gbagbe ibi ti mo ti ri It was such an interesting read. There was one by sbmintel as well. I remember posting it here
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 11, 2016 23:55:27 GMT
Another [compelling] reason why I personally feel that the country is better off splitting is coz of the calculated and increasing rhetoric of hatred, envy, jealousy, and hostility being promoted against Yorubas by our Southern neighbors, especially the Igbos, via social media.
It would seem like some Yorubas, especially those of us that use social media, are beginning to realize and come to terms with this conspiracy and are fighting back as was recently demonstrated on that Akpabio thread on Nairaland. Even some of our political leaders, especially in Lagos, are no longer finding it funny. E.g, During a recent conversation with a Lagos-Island based politician in Ambo's circle, I was reliably informed that the governor has expressed his intentions to curb igbo excesses in the state, though codedly.
It seems Nnamdi Kanu has managed to, via his genocidal diatribes, successfully brainwash and convince a considerable number of his followers into believing that Yorubas are the source of their problems in life (even worse than the Hausa/Fulanis that are beheading their people up North -- the only times they seem to attack the Northerners is when the herdsmen rape and butcher them in their farms, when their kinsman is beheaded by them, and when they are attacking Buhari for calling them 5%centers. They reserve their worst attacks and abuses [such as 'cowards' and 'slaves'] for Yorubas). So much so that a lot of SS people seem to also be buying into their propaganda that we Yorubas are the source of their problems.
Abeg, for how long can we continue to share the same country with such hateful characters?? Or must we allow their hatred for us to boil over into violence against us before we separate ourselves from them? Must we wait till they start calling in on radio Biafra to gleefully tell their listeners that they have started hunting down yolobas?
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Post by Iya Niyen! on Jun 12, 2016 14:16:04 GMT
IMO, the mere fact that the Biafrans are seriously seeking to include the violent, unstable and highly temperamental Ijaws and wider SS into their utopian dreamland is enough evidence that they are clueless and are on a sure path to failure. The extent of violence that will engulf such a country, if it's to ever come to fruition, would be unprecedented in African history. I am kinda glad that they're agitating though coz we can't continue deceiving ourselves that we will develop as a country under the current structure and system. Yorubas have tried and failed in the past to change the system while the igbos looked the other way and were busy fraternizing with the Northern power brokers. If they (along with the ijaw/ND militants) can sustain or even escalate the tempo of their agitation for long enough to force the Northerners to see the imperative of a renegotiation of our union then Yorubaland will be the better for it. You know a Biafra that will include Ijaws is my ultimate wish But then again, Yorubaland will keep suffering from influx of people who have destroyed their region You need to see the number of Northerners who migrated to Oyo state during the Boko Haram perios It's not looking really good plus I foresee a war-torn, messed up Niger delta in the future I'm so happy that I'm not the only person that is harbouring this evil thought of a an Ibo + Ijaw nation, It's obvious the Ibo would want to use their numerical advantage to show themselves and Ijaws being vicious and violent will try as much as possible to subdue which will give birth to bloodletting on a giant proportion.. As for the influx of "illegal" immigrant, this time will not be like the other time, South west won't use its scarce resources to cater for strays... To your tent oh ugandans and Gambaris...
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Post by Iya Niyen! on Jun 12, 2016 14:27:30 GMT
Another [compelling] reason why I personally feel that the country is better off splitting is coz of the calculated and increasing rhetoric of hatred, envy, jealousy, and hostility being promoted against Yorubas by our Southern neighbors, especially the Igbos, via social media. It would seem like some Yorubas, especially those of us that use social media, are beginning to realize and come to terms with this conspiracy and are fighting back as was recently demonstrated on that Akpabio thread on Nairaland. Even some of our political leaders, especially in Lagos, are no longer finding it funny. E.g, During a recent conversation with a Lagos-Island based politician in Ambo's circle, I was reliably informed that the governor has expressed his intentions to curb igbo excesses in the state, though codedly. It seems Nnamdi Kanu has managed to, via his genocidal diatribes, successfully brainwash and convince a considerable number of his followers into believing that Yorubas are the source of their problems in life (even worse than the Hausa/Fulanis that are beheading their people up North -- the only times they seem to attack the Northerners is when the herdsmen rape and butcher them in their farms, when their kinsman is beheaded by them, and when they are attacking Buhari for calling them 5%centers. They reserve their worst attacks and abuses [such as 'cowards' and 'slaves'] for Yorubas). So much so that a lot of SS people seem to also be buying into their propaganda that we Yorubas are the source of their problems. Abeg, for how long can we continue to share the same country with such hateful characters?? Or must we allow their hatred for us to boil over into violence against us before we separate ourselves from them? Must we wait till they start calling in on radio Biafra to gleefully tell their listeners that they have started hunting down yolobas? Bros, I don't see this contraption making it to 2019 as it stands, One way or the other, even on the streets, the Yeeboes have been conditioned by the Albino Lizard in Zoo Tubu that all their problems can be traced to the yoruba and they are acting on it... Things will come to a head sooner rather than later, if NDA doesn't force things before the end of the year at the rate they are going... ACF are already warning about imminent civil war if the SE/SS don't stop destabilizing their bro's govt and we know the SE/SS are learners when it comes to violence in comparison to the Hausa /Fulani. That Akpabio outburst drove home the point that we don't belong with people whose brain aren't in tandem with their brawn.. The only thing I'm begging Eledumare for is for our people to not be caught in any crossfire, anything else dem wan use densefs do, they are free..
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 12, 2016 15:28:31 GMT
You know a Biafra that will include Ijaws is my ultimate wish But then again, Yorubaland will keep suffering from influx of people who have destroyed their region You need to see the number of Northerners who migrated to Oyo state during the Boko Haram perios It's not looking really good plus I foresee a war-torn, messed up Niger delta in the future I'm so happy that I'm not the only person that is harbouring this evil thought of a an Ibo + Ijaw nation, It's obvious the Ibo would want to use their numerical advantage to show themselves and Ijaws being vicious and violent will try as much as possible to subdue which will give birth to bloodletting on a giant proportion.. As for the influx of "illegal" immigrant, this time will not be like the other time, South west won't use its scarce resources to cater for strays... To your tent oh ugandans and Gambaris... As per the immigration thing, for now, I'm still struggling to believe the country will disintegrate so I'm looking at everything from the regionalism perspective. As long as we remain Nigerians, there's nothing we can do about it
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Post by Iya Niyen! on Jun 12, 2016 18:08:17 GMT
Honorebu, I didn't believe it till one guy my husby knows gave us Intel about how Jonathan gave tacit support for stockpiling of arms by his bros. Pipeline Surveillance also bred bunkering..... Remember that story about acquistion of warships by Tompolo? As per the immigration thing, the rules will be different, indigene won't be treated like settlers, that won't work...
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 12, 2016 18:23:34 GMT
Honorebu , I didn't believe it till one guy my husby knows gave us Intel about how Jonathan gave tacit support for stockpiling of arms by his bros. Pipeline Surveillance also bred bunkering..... Remember that story about acquistion of warships by Tompolo? As per the immigration thing, the rules will be different, indigene won't be treated like settlers, that won't work... But really, these people don mix gaaan. How do you even deal with all these Amaka adeboyes all over the place. Inter-tribal marriage dey on the rise Trust me, it's not as simple as it sounds even in a Yoruba country
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Post by Iya Niyen! on Jun 12, 2016 19:10:59 GMT
Honorebu , I didn't believe it till one guy my husby knows gave us Intel about how Jonathan gave tacit support for stockpiling of arms by his bros. Pipeline Surveillance also bred bunkering..... Remember that story about acquistion of warships by Tompolo? As per the immigration thing, the rules will be different, indigene won't be treated like settlers, that won't work... But really, these people don mix gaaan. How do you even deal with all these Amaka adeboyes all over the place. Inter-tribal marriage dey on the rise Trust me, it's not as simple as it sounds even in a Yoruba country Yeeboes say dem fit dash any of their people that married outside of their tribe out, that they care less... I know it ain't gonna be easy at all, but when the baseje insists nko? I prefer regionalism cos Nigeria is a big country and won't want to be one of the minions in Africa but if the glue has weakened, wetin we go do?
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