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Post by omohayek on Jun 17, 2017 19:27:15 GMT
On this topic, Aregbesola and I are in complete agreement. We even agree on the idea of returning to the parliamentary system! Instead of 6 SW states, with 2 getting most of the revenue and development, let's have just one state for which we can draw up cross-regional development plans without having to beg the FG for money and permission. And while we're at it, it's well past time for some of the business taxes, border levies and ports revenues raised in our region to stay in our region, instead of just supporting the north and the SE; in return, we'll give up the federal allocations and let the Niger Deltans keep their "oyel" money. Only then will we start seeing who the real "parasites" are in the joke of a country called Nigeria.
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 17, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
On this topic, Aregbesola and I are in complete agreement. We even agree on the idea of returning to the parliamentary system! Instead of 6 SW states, with 2 getting most of the revenue and development, let's have just one state for which we can draw up cross-regional development plans without having to beg the FG for money and permission. And while we're at it, it's well past time for some of the business taxes, border levies and ports revenues raised in our region to stay in our region, instead of just supporting the north and the SE; in return, we'll give up the federal allocations and let the Niger Deltans keep their "oyel" money. Only then will we start seeing who the real "parasites" are in the joke of a country called Nigeria. What I still don't get is why it's so difficult for the political elite to agree on the need for restructuring. The current arrangement is no longer sustainable with ever falling oil prices. The country will breakup if it's not restructured any time soon.
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Post by omohayek on Jun 17, 2017 22:01:34 GMT
On this topic, Aregbesola and I are in complete agreement. We even agree on the idea of returning to the parliamentary system! Instead of 6 SW states, with 2 getting most of the revenue and development, let's have just one state for which we can draw up cross-regional development plans without having to beg the FG for money and permission. And while we're at it, it's well past time for some of the business taxes, border levies and ports revenues raised in our region to stay in our region, instead of just supporting the north and the SE; in return, we'll give up the federal allocations and let the Niger Deltans keep their "oyel" money. Only then will we start seeing who the real "parasites" are in the joke of a country called Nigeria. What I still don't get is why it's so difficult for the political elite to agree on the need for restructuring. The current arrangement is no longer sustainable with ever falling oil prices. The country will breakup if it's not restructured any time soon. They won't agree because they all want their own shot at "chopping" some of that free "oyel" money, which is so easily stolen precisely because it isn't raised through taxes, meaning the masses neither notice when its missing nor care if they ever find out. Look at the whole "OPL 245/Malabu Oil" saga or "Dasukigate" - a few politicians shared literally billions of dollars between themselves, and most Nigerians wouldn't have been any wiser if Jonathan hadn't lost the election. Even now that we know how much GEJ and co stole, his most loyal defenders are the very Igbos and Ijaws for who he did absolutely nothing whatsoever when he had power - no fixed roads, no 2n Niger Bridge, no improved port facilities, nothing but "juicy" appointments for a few lucky individuals like Stella Oduah. The freedom natural resource wealth gives politicians to ignore those who vote for them is one of the reasons why I'm so much in favor of letting the SS people have their precious "oyel", and why I can never join those who celebrate Lagos joining the oil-producing states. Awuf oil money and good government simply don't mix, and in any case we in the SW don't really need it, if we're just allowed to keep more of the money we raise, instead of sending it off to the FG.
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 18, 2017 2:20:46 GMT
But why is it that the only time these Yoruba leaders remember restructuring is on June 12 and when they are in opposition. Smh
Anyway, I'd like to believe that the next president coming in would guarantee us a restructured Nigeria. Let's just hope they don't break their promises like Buhari and let's just hope our next president won't be a member of the Northern establishment.
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Post by omohayek on Jun 18, 2017 6:46:58 GMT
But why is it that the only time these Yoruba leaders remember restructuring is on June 12 and when they are in opposition. Smh Anyway, I'd like to believe that the next president coming in would guarantee us a restructured Nigeria. Let's just hope they don't break their promises like Buhari and let's just hope our next president won't be a member of the Northern establishment. I won't hold my breath on that last bit - if he isn't from the establishment, how will all the noisemakers currently arguing for "The North" to retain the presidency going to get their shot at the "juicy appointments" where they can steal the most?
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Post by Ogbeni Ogunnaike on Jun 18, 2017 6:54:50 GMT
Some are calling for the implementation of the 2014 cnfab report.
Please does any one of you guyz know what exactly was the final resolution of the so called confab?
What is in it for the SW?
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 18, 2017 10:58:01 GMT
Some are calling for the implementation of the 2014 cnfab report. Please does any one of you guyz know what exactly was the final resolution of the so called confab? What is in it for the SW? I went through the report one time like that. Can't remember the full details but there were a lot of bullshit in it that aren't in favorable to the SW. There is a thread on it here and I think Ireke onibudo posted it. Some Yorubas especially APC wing think the whole report should be scrapped for a new one. But I disagree. We can always pick the favorable and negotiate the unfavorable parts of the document. But you know, everything is politics to these people, even if that thing would save their unborn descendants. Smh
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 18, 2017 11:08:46 GMT
But why is it that the only time these Yoruba leaders remember restructuring is on June 12 and when they are in opposition. Smh Anyway, I'd like to believe that the next president coming in would guarantee us a restructured Nigeria. Let's just hope they don't break their promises like Buhari and let's just hope our next president won't be a member of the Northern establishment. I won't hold my breath on that last bit - if he isn't from the establishment, how will all the noisemakers currently arguing for "The North" to retain the presidency going to get their shot at the "juicy appointments" where they can steal the most? The sad thing is, the majority of the Northern populace would still support these thieves without asking questions. Since dem don dey there, e don improve our life? Their pikin dey cruise ride for Dubai with the money wey dem steal from us, but na shoe we and our grandchildren go still shine till we dieBut common sense is not common
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 18, 2017 11:20:06 GMT
Speaking of confab and why some think it should be scrapped, I think what we mainly got out of it was resource control not regionalism. Ah! Then we had this type of fxxkery all through the conference *face palm* Still doesn't mean it should be dumped. It can be renegotiated
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Post by omohayek on Jun 18, 2017 12:08:38 GMT
Speaking of confab and why some think it should be scrapped, I think what we mainly got out of it was resource control not regionalism. Ah! Then we had this type of fxxkery all through the conference *face palm* Still doesn't mean it should be dumped. It can be renegotiated Of course they'd say that, so that they can realize their fantasies of Lagos as a "no man's land", probably followed by Ogun soon after, and then Oyo down the line ... This issue of migration gradually turning the entire SW into one big "no man's land" is one of the main reasons why I fully support the Biafran secessionists. Their success will inevitably mean the fragmentation of the rest of Nigeria, which will provide the perfect circumstances for everybody to go to his father's land.
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 18, 2017 12:34:53 GMT
Speaking of confab and why some think it should be scrapped, I think what we mainly got out of it was resource control not regionalism. Ah! Then we had this type of fxxkery all through the conference *face palm* Still doesn't mean it should be dumped. It can be renegotiated Professor Nwabueze must have been high and drunk when he said that. Why didn't he use his native Anambra as a reference? Or is it only in Lagos that non-indigenes should deserve 'equal and political social rights'? See ehn, after reading a copy of Wale Adebanwi's "Yoruba Elites and Corporate Politics in Nigeria", I had to come to the conclusion that Igbos and Yorubas simply CAN'T coexist in the the same country like Nigeria for long without major conflict owing to the Igbo penchant to want to dominate us. Igbo covetousness and desire to dominate the Yorubas even within their own region didn't start yesterday, and I'll quote some very instructive section of the earlier mentioned book to buttress this. So it's not today that Igbos have been trying to intimidate Yoruba people, even in our own turf. Awo obviously adopted a 'sophisticated' approach in response to their antics, while the likes of Akintola was more confrontational. Cc: Ogbeni Ogunnaike , omohayek , Her Highness , ruggedized , AgbongboAkala , honeychild , skebe , Belmot , omoolowu
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Post by Honorebu on Jun 18, 2017 13:11:35 GMT
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Post by Short_Biscuit on Jun 18, 2017 13:24:03 GMT
Zik's plan was to turn Yorubaland into a conquered territory of sorts, and this he was achieving methodically via nepotism and his position as president -- he cleverly posted his people into all the strategic offices in Lagos and Ibadan. That was why Akintola felt he had to do that famous broadcast to try to awaken Yoru-consciousness and arrest the trend. Bottom line is we must be very vigilant. A substantial number of their successful people made (and have been making) their success in our land, so it shouldn't surprise us that they covet and desire to dominate us in order to maximize their returns and potentials.
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Post by omohayek on Jun 18, 2017 13:28:36 GMT
You should! It's really enlightening, not just about the roots of today's ethnic conflicts, but also about what Awolowo had to go through to put together the Action Group and lead it to preeminence in the Western Region. People who cite isolated clashes between Ife and Modakeke or supposed "tensions" between Egbas and Ijebus as evidence of Yoruba "disunity" have no idea just how much more difficult things were in Awo's day, when memories of the 19th century wars were still fresh.
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Post by skebe on Jun 18, 2017 13:50:23 GMT
Speaking of confab and why some think it should be scrapped, I think what we mainly got out of it was resource control not regionalism. Ah! Then we had this type of fxxkery all through the conference *face palm* Still doesn't mean it should be dumped. It can be renegotiated Professor Nwabueze must have been high and drunk when he said that. Why didn't he use his native Anambra as a reference? Or is it only in Lagos that non-indigenes should deserve 'equal and political social rights'? See ehn, after reading a copy of Wale Adebanwi's "Yoruba Elites and Corporate Politics in Nigeria", I had to come to the conclusion that Igbos and Yorubas simply CAN'T coexist in the the same country like Nigeria for long without major conflict owing to the Igbo penchant to want to dominate us. Igbo covetousness and desire to dominate the Yorubas even within their own region didn't start yesterday, and I'll quote some very instructive section of the earlier mentioned book to buttress this. So it's not today that Igbos have been trying to intimidate Yoruba people, even in our own turf. Awo obviously adopted a 'sophisticated' approach in response to their antics, while the likes of Akintola was more confrontational. Cc: Ogbeni Ogunnaike , omohayek , Her Highness , ruggedized , AgbongboAkala , honeychild , skebe , Belmot , omoolowu Intimidation as a means of control is ingrained in Igbos generally. Something Yoruba has is wit and tact, Igbo has none of these, so they resort to intimidation, when they want control. It's their natural trait. People fear what they don't understand, and that's I guess led to hostility of Zik to the the Egbe Omo odua as you described.
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